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>> the question is, is sebelius the right target? politically the president is at the top of the administration. republicans have to grill sebelius, in terms of a political face, in 2014, she's not the most the best person for them as a target. so i think they're going to try to find a way to make this a hypocriticalal argument against the president and tie in the president, himself. >> let me just ask you on this point. i'm looking at it in political points. that's the point of this segment. is it enough to really generate grass roots support, tea party, whomever, to renovate the republican party in 2014, is the sticker shock of the higher premiums and the pink slips, as i call them the cancellation of the insurance, is that going to be sufficient to rile up the tea party types as was the case back in 2010 when this all first surfaced? >> you know, this new story about all the people losing their insurance due to cancellations that, is one of a long list of broken promises that go along with obama care. i do believe this is a transf
>> the question is, is sebelius the right target? politically the president is at the top of the administration. republicans have to grill sebelius, in terms of a political face, in 2014, she's not the most the best person for them as a target. so i think they're going to try to find a way to make this a hypocriticalal argument against the president and tie in the president, himself. >> let me just ask you on this point. i'm looking at it in political points. that's the point of...
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i want watch some of this hearing today with kathleen sebelius, the health and human services secretary. georgia congressman, your doctor, you can't tell me you've read this law. marsha blackburn, we're not going to let you off the hook either. i think these republicans out to come out, raise their right hand and say i have read obama care, first page to last page. they wouldn't oh be bringing up these issues if they knew. it is clearly stated in the law about what happens to people who are going to lose the junk insurance. but the republicans have taken it, and they hoodwinked some of the people in the mainstream media to believe this is really a bad deal, and what obama is really doing is, well, he's screwing you. come on, folks. this is about moving america forward. john f. kennedy, we played a clip of him last night on this program from 50 years ago, talking about how other industrialized countries around the world are ahead of us. and they're still ahead of us. this is the catch-up mode. this is america getting the game for the american people. this is protecting consumers. the pre
i want watch some of this hearing today with kathleen sebelius, the health and human services secretary. georgia congressman, your doctor, you can't tell me you've read this law. marsha blackburn, we're not going to let you off the hook either. i think these republicans out to come out, raise their right hand and say i have read obama care, first page to last page. they wouldn't oh be bringing up these issues if they knew. it is clearly stated in the law about what happens to people who are...
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. >> kathleen sebelius. >> we were wrong. we must fix it. >> a few committee members. >> had their rehearsed one-liner. >> to be played on cable news. >> some people like to drive a ford not a ferrari. >> has a man ever delivered a baby. >> of come on in the water is fine. >> toto, we are not in kansas. >> the proverbial, we are not in kansas any more. >> you are from kansas. we are not in kansas anymore. >> you clearly, whatever. >> we are working overtime to improve it every day. >> that's good news. >> this is the hall where. >> mitt romney. >> pick any other republican in the country. >> he did the right thing on health care. >> he is the worst republican in the country. >> we are in this together. and we are going to see it through. we are going to see this through! [ cheers and applause ] >> so sorry that we can't afford the rights to clips of wizard of oz. the secretary of health and human services faced hours of questions at a house committee hearing today about affordable care act. president obama by passed congress
. >> kathleen sebelius. >> we were wrong. we must fix it. >> a few committee members. >> had their rehearsed one-liner. >> to be played on cable news. >> some people like to drive a ford not a ferrari. >> has a man ever delivered a baby. >> of come on in the water is fine. >> toto, we are not in kansas. >> the proverbial, we are not in kansas any more. >> you are from kansas. we are not in kansas anymore. >> you clearly,...
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congress questioning health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. if you missed the hearing it's safe to say that this was not the secretary's best day. and among other things, we're looking at is how obama care could change your employer sponsored plan. we're getting new details today as annual enrollment season approaches for many of the plans. then, now i can move over here, there is sue, the it fed, decision time, one hour away and where does america stand on job creation? it's critical, obviously, to the fed and to the economy. adp number out this morning, not so great. let's check in with you at the nyse. >> you're absolutely right, and we will get to that but we want to start, ty, with the fireworks on capitol hill as kathleen sebelius goes before the house energy and commerce committee. bertha coombs is on the case on capitol hill. over to you, bertha. >> sue, the hearing lasting more than three and a half hours and members of congress usually a little more def ren shall to a cab meth member but they did hit secretary kathleen sebelius hard
congress questioning health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. if you missed the hearing it's safe to say that this was not the secretary's best day. and among other things, we're looking at is how obama care could change your employer sponsored plan. we're getting new details today as annual enrollment season approaches for many of the plans. then, now i can move over here, there is sue, the it fed, decision time, one hour away and where does america stand on job creation? it's...
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i don't know if it's kathleen sebelius is totally at fault. she told congress to, quote, hold me accountable and how come you can't fall on your sword and quit this red-hot minute. even michael brown knew to resign from fema after he bofrped the federal government's handling of the katrina tragedy. we don't know if brownie really resign offed his own accord or was pushed out by president obama, but at least he vanished and that's not a bad idea for sebelius to mull over or act on it. i don't know if cgi group that powered the website knew what it was doing when it set up this ridiculous excuse for an interface between the government and its people. they want to blame verizon for a big portion of the failure. sebelius was implying that verizon's hosting abilities were less than stellar. verizon was thrown right under the bus. well done. i can can tell you how i would have understand thatteled this task and made the president proud. instead of giving the republicans all of the ammo they need to wipeout the program in 2014. it's ironic that this
i don't know if it's kathleen sebelius is totally at fault. she told congress to, quote, hold me accountable and how come you can't fall on your sword and quit this red-hot minute. even michael brown knew to resign from fema after he bofrped the federal government's handling of the katrina tragedy. we don't know if brownie really resign offed his own accord or was pushed out by president obama, but at least he vanished and that's not a bad idea for sebelius to mull over or act on it. i don't...
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health and human secretary kathleen sebelius about to take the mic. in her prepared remarks she's says "the initial consumer experience of healthcare.gov have not lived up to the expectations. american people and are not acceptable. we are committed to fixing these problems as soon as possible. s&p up 13 of the past 15 sessions. we do have a fed decision this afternoon. even initial reviews of the apple ipad air. as we monitor the hearing this morning in washington, let's get to jim. first, broad markets, we've not had a run look we've had this month in a long time. whether you're larry fink or others, people asking serious questions about when in ends and how it ends. >> you keep thinking it should end and then general motors comes out with a quarter that says, hey, listen, we're back, too. you keep thinking it will end and then i sit back and listen to some of these conference calls and various industries. buffalo wild wings. you can say they're small potatoes but they're blowing the number away. gilead last night, a remarkable quarter. i keep getti
health and human secretary kathleen sebelius about to take the mic. in her prepared remarks she's says "the initial consumer experience of healthcare.gov have not lived up to the expectations. american people and are not acceptable. we are committed to fixing these problems as soon as possible. s&p up 13 of the past 15 sessions. we do have a fed decision this afternoon. even initial reviews of the apple ipad air. as we monitor the hearing this morning in washington, let's get to jim....
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now, there's also a growing amount of heat on hhs secretary kathleen sebelius to step down. i do think she deserves a lot of criticism but i'll say again, she's taking way too much for the president, who should be held accountable for all of this. listen to how our friends at "saturday night live "i made fun of the story. >> secretary sebelius this week said president obama did not know about the technical problems until after the site's launch, in a statement she delivered from under the bus. >> right under the bus. more from snl a little later in the show. now let's turn to our distinguished guests to talk about this. joining me on set, jared bernstein. jim pethokoukis, a cnbc contributor. john bernstein, let me go to you first. i never like to say presidents lie. i like to say they're examples of huge cognitive dissonance, okay? they knew 65% would be cancelled, other parties say they thought 80% would be cancelled. that jives with our consultants that told us as many as 14 million to 16 million people will lose their insurance. why doesn't the president fess up to that?
now, there's also a growing amount of heat on hhs secretary kathleen sebelius to step down. i do think she deserves a lot of criticism but i'll say again, she's taking way too much for the president, who should be held accountable for all of this. listen to how our friends at "saturday night live "i made fun of the story. >> secretary sebelius this week said president obama did not know about the technical problems until after the site's launch, in a statement she delivered from...
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should it be kathleen sebelius? >>el with, ed, i think we have a long ways to go before we can say it goes to the top. we certainly want to get the website fixed, but we shouldn't fix ate on the website and that's unfortunately what i think my republican colleagues have begun to do is fix ate on the website. we have to work together to make it work well. we want americans to get covered. the most important thing about the affordable care act isn't a website. it's that millions of americans will finally have an opportunity to get quality health care. and that's what we should really focus on. so absolutely, we should hold people accountable. but right now we're trying to determine who should be accountable. any time you take taxpayer money and taxpayers have paid for this, you should be held accountable. so those private contractors who took taxpayer money to do the work, those health personnel who are working on this for the different government agencies, we have to figure out who should be held accountable. and by
should it be kathleen sebelius? >>el with, ed, i think we have a long ways to go before we can say it goes to the top. we certainly want to get the website fixed, but we shouldn't fix ate on the website and that's unfortunately what i think my republican colleagues have begun to do is fix ate on the website. we have to work together to make it work well. we want americans to get covered. the most important thing about the affordable care act isn't a website. it's that millions of...
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and then on wednesday, front and center, kathleen sebelius, house energy and commerce. again, they're going to ask her if the president didn't mean, when did you know and why, perhaps, didn't you delay the beginning of the open enrollment? she did have discretion to do that. guys? >> bertha, thank you so much. while washington scrambles to fix these technical issues, some middle class americans are find, the cost of the affordable care act is now less affordable than before. at least for them. >> let's meet them right now. debora, real estate agent in california. diane is a real estate agent in florida. ladies, welcome to both of you. debora, let's start with you. how much are you paying now and how much will you pay beginning in january, assuming you get another deal -- another comparable plan? >> right. i'm currently paying $293 a month. a comparable plan, which i must say i still don't know what is in the comparable plan with anthem blue cross will be $484 a month. >> now, this is because you were with health net, which didn't meet minimum requirements of obama care
and then on wednesday, front and center, kathleen sebelius, house energy and commerce. again, they're going to ask her if the president didn't mean, when did you know and why, perhaps, didn't you delay the beginning of the open enrollment? she did have discretion to do that. guys? >> bertha, thank you so much. while washington scrambles to fix these technical issues, some middle class americans are find, the cost of the affordable care act is now less affordable than before. at least for...
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i know kathleen sebelius. i trust her, i would imagine going before the committee an repeating what the director has said here can't be good for the administration and ultimately won't be good in the short and intermediate term for the program, itself. democrats and republicans will have to tinker with this and make changes over time. the real question comes from me. if, indeed -- >> it's like the titanic, you tinker your way through the fog. the question becomes if and when the president has to delay the individual pan date. obvious -- mandate. the question was that didn't come. we didn't see any coverage from that from the director. >> john, miss tavenner said the argument we almost heard for a month, the crushing load of demand, obama care is what caused the program through this website. she, too, it wasn't just kathleen sebelius, she said cgi federal is to blame. you think they're glad they took this contract at this point? they have been thrown under the bus again and again. >> that doesn't pass the smell
i know kathleen sebelius. i trust her, i would imagine going before the committee an repeating what the director has said here can't be good for the administration and ultimately won't be good in the short and intermediate term for the program, itself. democrats and republicans will have to tinker with this and make changes over time. the real question comes from me. if, indeed -- >> it's like the titanic, you tinker your way through the fog. the question becomes if and when the president...
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the president and sebelius are working on it. it will get fixed and people will have the same opportunity on a federal level they're having in kentucky. >> i'm glad you bring up three years down the road things will look different. as i understand it, the obama care is going to pick up 100% of cost for medicaid patients you're adding with this. three years from now it's a different picture. isn't it at that point the states are expected to pick up 10%? >> in 2017 the match starts kicking in. by 2020 it reaches the 10% level. let me tell you something becky. i didn't just make this decision because it was the right thing to do. it's the morally right thing to do. i have a fiscal responsibility to the people of our state. i can't put us into something we can't afford. i asked price water house cooper and urban institute at university of louisville to do an economic analysis for me and tell me can we afford this in the long run? they looked my in the eye and said governor you can't afford not to do this. you're going to infuse over
the president and sebelius are working on it. it will get fixed and people will have the same opportunity on a federal level they're having in kentucky. >> i'm glad you bring up three years down the road things will look different. as i understand it, the obama care is going to pick up 100% of cost for medicaid patients you're adding with this. three years from now it's a different picture. isn't it at that point the states are expected to pick up 10%? >> in 2017 the match starts...
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kathleen sebelius. >> donny deutsch and nicole wallace. patiently drudging through three hours of red sox adoration. we miss you. tell us how did kathleen sebelius do here yesterday? >> probably as well as could be expected. it's really hard to defend. the website roll out is one thing and they will get that fixed. it's embarrassing i think for them to have to come up and explain this and defend a major disaster, but i think as the president said, this is not just a website. it's much more. the things that will be harder to defend are the canceled policies and all the things that are hitting middle class americans now. the real problem the administration has with the health care plan. >> nicole wallace? >> we haven't seen this in a long time. i opened up "time" magazine this morning and they are pointing to problems in the president's credibility. "the washington post" is talking about the falsehoods he uttered when he told the people if they liked their plan they could keep it and if they liked their doctor, they can keep him or her. how
kathleen sebelius. >> donny deutsch and nicole wallace. patiently drudging through three hours of red sox adoration. we miss you. tell us how did kathleen sebelius do here yesterday? >> probably as well as could be expected. it's really hard to defend. the website roll out is one thing and they will get that fixed. it's embarrassing i think for them to have to come up and explain this and defend a major disaster, but i think as the president said, this is not just a website. it's...
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on wednesday kathleen sebelius will be back as well, testifying before the finance committee. back to you. >> bertha, thank you so much. the obama administration set a target of 7 million people to sign up for the new health care plan by march 1 st of next year. that's 39,000 each day. the exact number of enrollees is not public but early estimates show enrollment falling short right now. joining us right now with their take, doug holtz, former director of the economic budget action and michael mandell, economic strategist for progressive policy institute. thank you for joining us. doug, kick us off. what do you think the impact of health care overall will be if the enrollment in exchanges falls short, which seems to be what we're seeing? >> well, this is a big problem for the obama care rollout. no question. you need the young invincibles. a group traditionally has not boughten some insurance. in polling we did earlier, 45% of them said they would not buy insurance if they saw premiums go up by as much as 30%. we're seeing much bigger increases than that. for a 30-year-old ma
on wednesday kathleen sebelius will be back as well, testifying before the finance committee. back to you. >> bertha, thank you so much. the obama administration set a target of 7 million people to sign up for the new health care plan by march 1 st of next year. that's 39,000 each day. the exact number of enrollees is not public but early estimates show enrollment falling short right now. joining us right now with their take, doug holtz, former director of the economic budget action and...
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this comes as more people call for hhs secretary kathleen sebelius to step down over this, but i say it's way over time to hold president obama accountable. the buck stops there. he ought to show some back bone and not just blame his underlings. and there's talk about the
this comes as more people call for hhs secretary kathleen sebelius to step down over this, but i say it's way over time to hold president obama accountable. the buck stops there. he ought to show some back bone and not just blame his underlings. and there's talk about the
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and health secretary kathleen sebelius still refuses to come clean about the inside causes and costs of the fiasco. all right. first, tonight, we now know that the obama administration is muzzling insurance companies, telling them to keep quiet about all the canceled
and health secretary kathleen sebelius still refuses to come clean about the inside causes and costs of the fiasco. all right. first, tonight, we now know that the obama administration is muzzling insurance companies, telling them to keep quiet about all the canceled
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. >> did you see "saturday night live" the woman who did kathleen sebelius and she was so proud they had three likes on facebook for the website. dan, one of the other things that i think a lot of people are finding is that there's sticker shock here. not only did washington state, we found out last week, have to tell people that the subsidies they thought they were going to get were miscalculated, they were going to pay more, but as people go into these programs, they are finding that because some of these insurance plans cover more, they cost more than the plans you might have been getting before? >> yeah. eye opening for a lot of people. if you just listen to the rhetoric out of the administration you would think it's not going to cost you a lec of a lot of money and the federal data hub issued this week compounded that. people aren't aware of how much offsets they can get but a lot of people will pay more or pay something they weren't obligated to pay before hand. they will be surprised. >> $100 a month or $50 for a lot of people, that is a -- >> sure. >> real difference maker. >
. >> did you see "saturday night live" the woman who did kathleen sebelius and she was so proud they had three likes on facebook for the website. dan, one of the other things that i think a lot of people are finding is that there's sticker shock here. not only did washington state, we found out last week, have to tell people that the subsidies they thought they were going to get were miscalculated, they were going to pay more, but as people go into these programs, they are...
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here is their interpretation of kathleen sebelius. >> still need guns? consult healthcare.gov's frequently asked questions for topics like "what the hell," "how have i been on the same page for three hours," "does obama care cover mental issues caused by this website." and the most frequent is "who the government." and then a postcard with the word help to u.s. government. attention internet problems, washington, d.c. and in six to eight weeks you'll receive an informational brochure along with a trial version of incarta encyclopedia plus 1,000 free hours of aol. >> everybody hates paperwork. >>> up next, despite the problems with the federal health care website, the system's working and working well on the state level on states, that is, who want it to work. in those states. that's bad news for the haters out there. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hopeng. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about
here is their interpretation of kathleen sebelius. >> still need guns? consult healthcare.gov's frequently asked questions for topics like "what the hell," "how have i been on the same page for three hours," "does obama care cover mental issues caused by this website." and the most frequent is "who the government." and then a postcard with the word help to u.s. government. attention internet problems, washington, d.c. and in six to eight weeks...
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today, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius testified before a republican house committee on problems with the rollout of the health care law. one republican congressman told her she was not in kansas anymore. another told her, he thought he saw her riding her bike in kansas when she was a child. it was a weird hearing. at one point, the secretary just said whatever. in the middle of an answer at a particularly badgering nonsense moment with a republican member of congress. the republican plan on health care was to pretend like it was not the law. then it was to shut down the government to demand that it not be the law. now the plan is maybe sort of trying to make it better. at least demanding that it be better and demanding answers for why it is not better already. when the problems with obama care start to be resolved as they were in massachusetts when that state's law rolled into effect over a period of months and years, when the problems with this nationally start to settle out and it starts to work, then what should we expect from the republicans? the success of the m
today, secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius testified before a republican house committee on problems with the rollout of the health care law. one republican congressman told her she was not in kansas anymore. another told her, he thought he saw her riding her bike in kansas when she was a child. it was a weird hearing. at one point, the secretary just said whatever. in the middle of an answer at a particularly badgering nonsense moment with a republican member of congress....
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secretary sebelius has got to do the same thing. she's got to sit down with all of the technical people and say, what are the problems? who's fixing it? who's responsible? how soon? when is it going to be done? that should have been done before it was rolled out, but now she's got to go back and start all over and do the same thing again, so that it really gets set up and runs correctly. >> it sounds like the administration has now set itself a deadline, perhaps the end of next month, which is a short period of time for a system this complex. >> that's right. >> the question now, just becomes, on the one hand, you know, a lot of inquiry into what went wrong, but on the other hand, are we actually capable of successfully launching a system of this complexity? and from your experience, as you said, with part d, et cetera, what's it going to take to get it right? >> you gotta -- you gotta start over and find out wherever the problems are, test them, retest them, fond out what the problems are, check them, and make sure somebody is resp
secretary sebelius has got to do the same thing. she's got to sit down with all of the technical people and say, what are the problems? who's fixing it? who's responsible? how soon? when is it going to be done? that should have been done before it was rolled out, but now she's got to go back and start all over and do the same thing again, so that it really gets set up and runs correctly. >> it sounds like the administration has now set itself a deadline, perhaps the end of next month,...
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i mean, i thought it was funny when congress asked kathleen sebelius, when was the last time you heard of a man giving birth? why are we forcing men to take on prenatal and pregnancy coverage? they don't need it and they don't want to pay this extra. >> lots of people don't think they need anything. the trouble is, and i believe in community rating which is what we did here 20 years ago. what that means is we're all in this together. i think that's what the affordable care act does. you had aetna, for example, that in three periods cut 350,000 people off their health insurance because they were sick. yeah. you could say i agree, these were all legal. now they're not legal anymore. what the president has done with the affordable care act is tighten up insurance standards so those kinds of things don't happen to people anymore. it is true. there are a few people that will pay more. most will not, though. people whose bills go from $200 to $600, either they can afford them or they're going to get tax subsidies and they're not going to have to pay that much. >> what about joe's contention
i mean, i thought it was funny when congress asked kathleen sebelius, when was the last time you heard of a man giving birth? why are we forcing men to take on prenatal and pregnancy coverage? they don't need it and they don't want to pay this extra. >> lots of people don't think they need anything. the trouble is, and i believe in community rating which is what we did here 20 years ago. what that means is we're all in this together. i think that's what the affordable care act does. you...
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the president had to go out and defend sebelius and alexander this week. they're circling the wagones and trying to defend themselves. >> and holding off hoping by november 30th they fix this by then, right? >> they have set themselves up. and that's a really good point, becky, because they have set themselves up for another deadline, another countdown clock dynamic where they promise this will be fixed by the end of november. if it isn't, it will be another failure and a lot of people wonder why they would set a hard and fast deadline date like that with an unknown -- >> because if you don't have it fixed by november 30th, then you have a much bigger problem. if people don't have a month to shop for these things. that doesn't change for people whose insurance was canceled. >> a interview an insurance company yesterday that said his firm had to kick 43,000 people off their plan because they weren't comply kwansant with obama care. he says he has no idea how many of those 40,000 will be able to navigate the website and get new insurance before the end of th
the president had to go out and defend sebelius and alexander this week. they're circling the wagones and trying to defend themselves. >> and holding off hoping by november 30th they fix this by then, right? >> they have set themselves up. and that's a really good point, becky, because they have set themselves up for another deadline, another countdown clock dynamic where they promise this will be fixed by the end of november. if it isn't, it will be another failure and a lot of...
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secretary sebelius has said in effect the buck stops with me. and you have rnc chair reince priebus calling on her firing. some dems also agree to that. even robert gibbs said that some people in charge of this launch should be fired. why have no heads rolled after a foulup this big? >> well, know, i think basically you've got an awful lot of hands into the experiment here with different contractors piecing together the rolling out of the program. and i think right now, the spirit of cooperation collaboration to get this done is much more overruling than having to assess blame in any location. that will come. there will be a review of how this happened. but right now, let's get to work. let's get this running because people do want to enroll. i think they see this as a major benefit. this is one of the biggest health care reform insurance reform launches since medicare a number of years ago in the early '60s. >> may i ask you before i let you go about the budget talks on the hill? there's been talk of the elusive grand bargain on spending taxes
secretary sebelius has said in effect the buck stops with me. and you have rnc chair reince priebus calling on her firing. some dems also agree to that. even robert gibbs said that some people in charge of this launch should be fired. why have no heads rolled after a foulup this big? >> well, know, i think basically you've got an awful lot of hands into the experiment here with different contractors piecing together the rolling out of the program. and i think right now, the spirit of...
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sebelius doesn't have all of the answers on the technical side. i don't know the extent to which she knows what's going wrong on the technical side. you're right, there was no one contractor in charge of making sure this was fully operational by day one. >> you can't penalize someone if they can't -- >> they can't buy it, right. >> they have to delay this. >> you have senate democrats who are running for re-election, you know, mary landru, mark prior, folks who are in stuff red states saying let's delay this. the white house is terrified of delay. they think it undermines the entire thing. it will start falling apart if they delay. you're absolutely right. how do you require somebody to buy something -- you wouldn't require somebody to buy a book on amazon if they -- >> is this a good headline or bad headline. >> obama unaware. >> it's a terrible headline. every time there's a problem in the administration obama is unaware. >> he's mad that he didn't know. >> he's mad about obama care. >> he's mad about -- >> that we were spying. >> mad about the
sebelius doesn't have all of the answers on the technical side. i don't know the extent to which she knows what's going wrong on the technical side. you're right, there was no one contractor in charge of making sure this was fully operational by day one. >> you can't penalize someone if they can't -- >> they can't buy it, right. >> they have to delay this. >> you have senate democrats who are running for re-election, you know, mary landru, mark prior, folks who are in...
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something we may very well hear again tomorrow from kathleen sebelius. but here is that interaction with chairman camp. >> this man wrote me and said, my wife has been recently informed by her insurance carrier that her health care policy does not comply with the affordable care act, and now we must purchase the same coverage with an 18% increase. >> half of the people in the individual market prior to 2010 didn't stay on their policies. they were either kicked off for pre-existing condition. they saw their premiums go up 20% a year. some insurance companies have decided, and i think that's what you were referring to in your opening statement, they want to be offered new plans. if they want new plans, they have to come into requirements of the affordable care act. >> so the obama administration taking the line that the insurers are making the decision to offer new plans, not to continue to offer grandfathered plans to the insurers, they will tell you the industry association, ahip, says they're offering plans now that comply with aca. so those are the ne
something we may very well hear again tomorrow from kathleen sebelius. but here is that interaction with chairman camp. >> this man wrote me and said, my wife has been recently informed by her insurance carrier that her health care policy does not comply with the affordable care act, and now we must purchase the same coverage with an 18% increase. >> half of the people in the individual market prior to 2010 didn't stay on their policies. they were either kicked off for pre-existing...
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followed by a few claims of hhs sebelius obama didn't know about problems of the health care website before the launch. the white house frequently has given a variation on this theme. the question, what did obama know and when did he know it? answer not much and about a minute ago. i mean not much and about a minute ago. and so now we're hearing that from other people that he did know for five years that angela merkel and allies have been -- i mean this is bad. >> the length of time that the program has been under operation or at least the lent of time it has been published with various world leaders. if he did not know, if you choose to believe the president of the united states and i believe the president of the united states, i want to believe the president of the united states. >> some reports suggest he signed off on it. >> if he did not know why didn't he know? the larger question is do we have an out of control national security agency? do we have a secret government in the shadows of government that the president of the united states and elected official doesn't know about. >
followed by a few claims of hhs sebelius obama didn't know about problems of the health care website before the launch. the white house frequently has given a variation on this theme. the question, what did obama know and when did he know it? answer not much and about a minute ago. i mean not much and about a minute ago. and so now we're hearing that from other people that he did know for five years that angela merkel and allies have been -- i mean this is bad. >> the length of time that...
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. >> that's what sebelius said. >> mid november, i'd do -- >> jan 1? >> yeah. mid 2015 and see what happens. >>> we have other news, president obama has reportly ordered the nsa to stop eavesdropping on joe kernen. no, stop eaves dropping on the headquarters of the imf and world bank. the order is said to be the latest move, of course, by the white house to demonstrate its willingness to curb at least some surveillance in the wake of weeks by former nsa contractor edward snowden. >>> a number of comments about janet yellen starting to come from the senate. richard shelby says he would oppose efforts to block her nomination with a filibuster unless some disturbing disclosure emerge. his comments come after senator rand paul said he instead to withhold her nomination. and senator lindsay graham has vowed an effort to block white house nominees until the obama administration comes forward with more information about benghazi. shelby's comments are important because democrats would need to pick up only five republicans vote to clear procedural hurdles and bring yel
. >> that's what sebelius said. >> mid november, i'd do -- >> jan 1? >> yeah. mid 2015 and see what happens. >>> we have other news, president obama has reportly ordered the nsa to stop eavesdropping on joe kernen. no, stop eaves dropping on the headquarters of the imf and world bank. the order is said to be the latest move, of course, by the white house to demonstrate its willingness to curb at least some surveillance in the wake of weeks by former nsa...
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. >> i wonder whether or not tavenner -- we heard sebelius, obviously, last week, reiterate that the 30th remains the target date. do you believe that's still the case? >> i that i it's going to be very difficult. >> senator, just to go back to this point, as well, so what you're saying is that instead of delaying the individual mandate by a year, for example, to keep the program in line, perhaps with its needs or what's happening on the employer side, that you're saying it will have to be a binary outcome. either we get it right right now, or we don't get it right at all. it doesn't sound like getting rid of it entirely is possible, so does that mean you fully back the implementation of having it up and running for march? >> i want it in place for my constituents. i happen to be one of those that rolled out companies in the private sector. i think they have serious problems with the implementation, and i'm not sure it will survive. >> i see. >> i don't want it to hurt my constituents or take away the coverage they've got. >> all right. thank you for clarifying that. senator isakson,
. >> i wonder whether or not tavenner -- we heard sebelius, obviously, last week, reiterate that the 30th remains the target date. do you believe that's still the case? >> i that i it's going to be very difficult. >> senator, just to go back to this point, as well, so what you're saying is that instead of delaying the individual mandate by a year, for example, to keep the program in line, perhaps with its needs or what's happening on the employer side, that you're saying it...